Can't touch this

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Wilin absolutely comes to my mind .

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I agree with Mike and Jake to varying degrees on this one.....

I thought it would be fun for other people to name who they think is invalueable to your cause as well as there own players

as far as Wilin goes the only reason i may even consider him untouchable like ever is because hes very very offensively gifted although hes defense makes him quite a liability.

But like i pointed out before sometimes its a personal thing for instance Garin Cecchini is a untouchable in my eyes hes not a top100 prospect nor is he considered a very highly touted prospect but because hes a Sox guy i wouldn't dare...Also he's a great talent a injury before the draft hurt his stock so lets get that clear....

As far as Stanton goes I absolutely throw him in the Untouchable region..Not only has mike made it clear his intentions but He's also considered to have a 80 on his power tool on scouts scale and i think the only prospect to ever even be discussed in his area in that regard is Bryce Harper and he was considered to have the best power ever......of any prospect lol

[Tigers GM (Alex)]

Every player has a price. To make a player completely untouchable to every offer will just hurt you long term. I mean, Jake, if I were to offer you McCutchen for Wilin would you really turn that down?

I probably own 6 or 7 guys that other teams would label "untouchable." I highly doubt that I'll own any of them by the start of the 2014 season though. If people are willing to overpay for your top players (which they ALWAYS are), then you need to be willing to deal them.

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Alex.... I really can't disagree with you or agree with you on this issue much more lol

I tottally agree that making a player flat out untouchable no matter what is unreasonable and can be counter productive to your long term success on the other hand....As i pointed out before sometimes especially considering this is a fantasy league and not our jobs lol people draw a personal connection with the player for 1 reason or another....I think a perfect example of this is Mike Stanton while his talent warrants him being in that High Priced-Untouchable region its really his owners intentions who have put him over the top......

So in that sense i agree with your basic idea but like I've pointed out this whole time i do think this is one of those gray area type things where there is no truely wrong answer just peoples feelings and opinion...Hell you could ask me for someone you'd expect to be fully discussable and moveable but because I love his GFs car i dont want to part ways lol and what are you gonna say to me? So at the end of the day this is so much more a personal scale then a objective hard proof scale

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Again though your point about the overpaying and willing to move them could not have hit home better IDC how much you love a player if your being offered a deal where you basically get a talent of their caliber back plus more lol how can you say no to that? every single person in this league can use a upgrade somewhere or another so on that point i couldnt agree more

[Braves GM (Wood)]

untouchable doesnt mean never moving...it just means it would take alot to give up, and you have no plans on moving them..

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untouchable doesnt mean never moving...it just means it would take alot to give up, and you have no plans on moving them.

Thats not untouchable then...Its Hard to Get.


NO ONE IS UNTOUCHABLE

Obviously you would trade Harper or Stanton for Braun, Miguel Cabrera, and Mike Trout. If you really think no deal could get a player from you you are wrong.

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My meaning of Untouchable........ is un touch able. You can't have lmao.

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I disagree with JT just a bit on this one..... For instance I've been offered some very lucrative deals for Dylan Bundy....Most would consider me a fool for having denied such deals but to me IDC what you offer Bundy is better then that maybe I'm being naive maybe I'm being foolish but at the end of the day THATS MY FEELINGS ON IT

I dont think you can dispute with someone the untouchability of their player lol I know not to bother asking Jake for instance since he keeps being brought up for Trout Craig or Willin even...Why you ask well fishy is a obvious but then the other 2 he has claimed untouchable and in my eyes once you say that towards a player that means im not gonna be happy giving up what it takes to get him......

So at the End of the Day again its 100000% all personal preference lol Garin Cecchini woudn't be a untouchable on 29 teams in this league but he happens to be on the 1 team who does consider him untouchable....I dare you to ask for him

[White Sox GM (Michael)]

I think untouchable means that I wouldn't really trade Stanton even if I'm maybe slightly winning the deal. If I was offered Miggy (who's on my team ), Braun, and Trout for Stanton, I may shut down this league because A. No team should ever be that fuckin stacked and B. I'd lose all faith in this league and mankind if that offer was even considered to be thrown out there, so I might as well shut down the forum at that point.

I think "untouchable" here means that other teams say, "Oh yeah, that guy has a crazy mancrush on so-and-so. I'm not even gonna ask for him because he's so damn untouchable." That's significant.

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Yes mike i think that's the point i was trying to reach lol

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Well yeah but youd still accept that deal....So yeah if fantasy baseball untouchable is different then the real definition of untouchable then yeah i agreeee

[White Sox GM (Michael)]

Sept 28, 2012 22:53:51 GMT -5 @jet7 said:

Well yeah but youd still accept that deal....So yeah if fantasy baseball untouchable is different then the real definition of untouchable then yeah i agreeee

Well, Trout on the real-life Angels is "untouchable" but if the Rays decided to offer Longoria, Price, Zobrist, and Moore for him, don't think for a second that the Angels wouldn't take that and run. Even a team like Pittsburgh, who wouldn't think about trading Cutch usually, couldn't refuse a package of Posey, Sandoval, and Bumgarner from San Fran. There isn't really a difference between leagues there.

--BTW, great discussion guys, even if it is somewhat semantics-oriented. We need more of this here.

[Braves GM (Wood)]

PURE SEMANTICS, thats what were good for....LOL