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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 12:15:04 GMT -5
AL MVP
Jose Fernandez
Runner Up-Buster Posey
Xander Bogaerts
NL MVP
Mike Trout
Runner Up- Miguel Cabrera
Andrew McCutchen
AL Cy Young
Jose Fernandez
Runner Up- Chris Sale
Yu Darvish
NL Cy Young
Gerrit Cole
Runner Up-Taijuan Walker
Shelby Miller
AL RoY
Xander Bogaerts
Runner Up- George Springer
Nick Castellanos
NL RoY
Taijuan Walker
Runner Up-Marcus Stroman
Corey Dickerson
Look at Felix Hernandez 2010 season where he won the Cy Young. Look at Fernandez Rookie year where he skipped AA and AAA. 2.32 ERA 249 IP with 232 Ks 13-12 record. 2.19 ERA 172 IP with 182Ks. 13-6 record with a 5.9 H/9 which is absolutely filthy. Had he been allowed to go over 200 innings there's no question in my mind he beats Kershaw for the Cy Young. To think he could win the MVP and Cy Young this year isn't that far of a stretch when put in the context of all that. My other picks are all pretty safe in my opinion. If guys like Scherzer, Kershaw, Tanaka, Abreu been on rosters I'm sure they would've played into the mix. I think this is finally the year Trout overcomes his archnemesis in Miggy and gets his MVP. Gerrit Cole for NL Cy Young might be a bit of a darkhorse pick but the kids got the potential for it, after all he was a #1 overall pick ahead of guys like Bundy, Baez, Bradley and many others including Jose Fernandez. With a 100MPH fastball and a slider that is as filthy as any breaking ball in the majors with the exception of maybe Fernandez.
Bogaerts for a RoY win as a SS who could potentially hit 280-300 with 20HR this year isn't a farfetched idea. I think Walker for JT and the NL is also a very reasonable pick. If you look at my overall picks it would appear that my opinion is trending towards the new wave of young MLB stars taking over this year.
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Post by Bryan (ex WAS) on Dec 18, 2013 14:29:17 GMT -5
lol ^
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Post by Rays GM (forbz) on Dec 18, 2013 15:36:40 GMT -5
im with you there bryan
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Post by Rays GM (forbz) on Dec 18, 2013 15:36:48 GMT -5
im with you there bryan
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 16:22:56 GMT -5
Why's that Forbz?
Name 3 Players in the AL better
For the RoY I think both are very reasonable expectations. NL Cy Young is a bit of a darkhorse but I'm taking a leap of faith on a great talent and Cole certainly has the talent to win one if maybe not so soon. NL MVP I don't think your arguing that much. So what are you really arguing? The fact that Fernandez will be MVP in the AL, so again, I say find me 3 players in the AL better.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 16:34:05 GMT -5
well, pitchers rarely win MVP's and i just can see fernandez being so dominant to win one, he could make a play at the cy younge, but his ERA will def not be the same as it was last year. And the fact that boegarts is a top 3 candidate for MVP makes no sense to me. I think Posey, Darvish, Cano, Longo, Hanley, Jones, encarnacion, stanton, sale, bautista, reyes, cespedes, could all be better than fernandez. not saying i think they all will just dont see fernandez winning an MVP
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 16:41:30 GMT -5
LOL Bogaerts in the top 3 MVP with Fernandez winning it. Only one reasonable imo is Posey. NL MVPs look solid I guess. NL Cy Young I think you're crazy to think three guys that young round out the top 3.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 16:49:03 GMT -5
In Real Life I agree with ya Oren.
But the AL in 2014 just doesn't have a lot of talent in my opinion. Posey, Jones are the only 2 really I considered other then Fernandez for the spot and posey made it. Yea, Bogaerts is a bold predicition but he's an advanced hitter who's already made starts in the WS. Last Time I checked Dustin Pedroia won the MVP in 08 after being a rookie in 07. So it wouldn't be the first time a youngster is in consideration. Mike Trout is another example. Like I said he's a SS who can hit for a average in the 300 range or above and has above average to plus power for the position. So if you ask me if he comes along as expected it's a very reasonable Idea he might be in consideration. Especially since he's the opening day starter at either SS or 3B.
If you think Fernandez can't win it then I don't see how you can think Darvish or Sale have a better chance. He's every bit as dominant as they are. He had the best H/9 in the majors last year as a rookie. With Progression he could have an ERA under 2. Not saying he not only repeats but outperforms his rookie season guranteed but it's not unreasonable to think he will. Stanton isn't winning it with that lineup around him absolutely no chance. Encarncion is a solid hitter but he's more of a supplementary stud to the main guy, in his case Bautista or Reyes. I noticed you named both, and Bautista I've never been a fan of don't see him in it at all. Reyes has a shot if he can get back to his NYM form which isn't a gurantee but very possible. Cespedes just had a pretty rough season and it's not crazy to think it's because MLB pitchers have figured him out and he's failing to adjust. He could be closer to what you saw in 2013 then his great season previously.
So while I will agree, Longo, Jones, Posey who I named, all have a legit shot and most likely one of the first 2 should be on there ahead of Bogaerts, but for the commentors before you to just laugh them off and one of them to call it a joke with no reasoning behind it is just wrong. All of my picks have very legitimate cases for them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 16:52:05 GMT -5
All 3 have the talent Owen, maybe they don't pull it off yet but maybe they do. Had Fernandez been allowed to pitch the full season good chance he rivals Kershaw for his Cy Young even more so then he already did.
Secondly, Cole, Walker and Miller all have the talent to win themselves a Cy Young. Miller in my opinion is the least likely of the 3 and still has a solid shot at it. If your main basis behind not agreeing with it is their age then that's on you 100%. All of my picks again, have solid arguments behind them. And Solid Arguements against them, which is why they are just predictions.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 16:55:52 GMT -5
If you don't like Jimmy's rankings make your own so everyone can critique them lol. That being said i don't agree with all of these. Any SP winning a MVP is a stretch but look what fernandez did last year as a rookie. Xander i also don't see being a candidate as a rookie but he's very talented.
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Post by Bryan (ex WAS) on Dec 18, 2013 17:08:53 GMT -5
AL MVP
Adam Jones (Indians)
Runner Up-Gincarlo Stanton (White Sox)
Xander Bogaerts (Red Sox)
NL MVP
Mike Trout (Cardinals)
Runner Up- Miguel Cabrera (Nationals)
Paul Goldschmidt (Marlins)
AL Cy Young
Yu Darvish (Orioles)
Runner Up- Chris Sale (White Sox)
Adam Wainwright (Tigers)
NL Cy Young
Stephen Strasburg (Nationlas)
Runner Up-Felix Hernandez (Nationals)
Cole Hamels (Cubs)
AL RoY
Xander Bogaerts (Red Sox)
Runner Up- Nick Castellanos (Twins)
George Springer (Red Sox)
NL RoY
Archie Bradley (Cubs)
Runner Up-Oscar Taveras (Pirates)
Taijuan Walker or Robert Stephenson (Pirates) (Pirates)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 17:12:37 GMT -5
AL MVP - Hanley Ramirez/Cano (one or the other will do great)
Runner Up - Giancarlo Stanton
3rd - Darvish/posey
NL MVP - Miggy
Runner Up - Trout
3rd - Goldy
AL Cy Young - Darvish
2nd - Fernandez
3rd - Sale
NL Cy Young - Kershaw (cuz im getting him)
runner up - stras
3rd - felix
AL ROY - Boegarts
NL ROY - Walker
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 17:12:43 GMT -5
All 3 have the talent Owen, maybe they don't pull it off yet but maybe they do. Had Fernandez been allowed to pitch the full season good chance he rivals Kershaw for his Cy Young even more so then he already did. Secondly, Cole, Walker and Miller all have the talent to win themselves a Cy Young. Miller in my opinion is the least likely of the 3 and still has a solid shot at it. If your main basis behind not agreeing with it is their age then that's on you 100%. All of my picks again, have solid arguments behind them. And Solid Arguements against them, which is why they are just predictions. That's a fair point. I think he's a stud, not arguing that. I certainly think it's possible. Just pretty bold to have all three pitchers in the top 3 as pitchers with little MLB experience. That said you've gotta be bold to get these predictions right. I could see Bogaerts winning ROY but I think top 3 in MVP is a stretch. |
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