Comp Picks

[Rays GM 北海道日(Will)]

Aight, can someone help us with comp picks.

I know Justin Verlander was a comp A, but not sure about anybody else and how to assign picks.

[Tigers GM (Alex)]

Type A:

Ranked 1-15 SP in the previous season
Ranked 1-30 Batter in the previous season

Type B:

Ranked 16-45 SP in the previous season
Ranked 31-75 Batter in the previous season
Ranked 1-15 RP in the previous season

If the player is not resigned by his former team and is a Type A or Type B free agent, appropriate compensation is awarded to the player's former team. Teams that lose Type A free agents are compensated with a pick following the first round of the following year's amateur draft. Teams that lose Type B free agents are compensated with a pick following the second round of the following year's amateur draft. The draft order of the compensation rounds is ordered according to their ranking in the Player Rater.

These compensation picks may be traded at any time after the player is signed.

In order to earn compensation, the team must own the player through the regular season trading deadline.

[Mariners GM (David)]

TYPE A
SCHERZER 17.53 - Not resigned by SFG
verlander 16.65 - Not resigned by PIT
arenando 15.38 - Sign and trade
cole 12.97
harper 12.94 - Acquired mid-season
rendon 12.13 - Not resigned by ARZ
gennett 11.15 - Acquired Jan 17, 2018 via trade with CWS, not resigned by HOU
brantley 10.90 - Not resigned by SEA
corbin 10.81 - Don't think he qualifies since HOU acquired him in season

TYPE B
kershaw 9.17 - Not resigned by MIN
ottavino 8.90 - CWS acquired him mid-season, no comp pick
happ 8.81
didi 8.79 - Not resigned by ARZ
hicks 8.46
markakis 8.40 - Not resigned by SEA
kimbrel 8.27
mc cutchen 7.34 - Not resigned by ARZ
puig 6.63 - Not resigned by WAS
dickerson 6.22
Anibal Sanchez 6.20 - Not resigned by SEA

[Astros GM (Max)]

Nolan Arenado should not get a comp pick because he was re-signed by PIT

Bryce Harper should not get a comp pick because he was acquired on August 1, 2018

[Astros GM (Max)]

Going by Fantrax Score, as we should be since this is the platform we now use, comp pick eligible players are:

Comp A:
Max Scherzer - 100.00
Justin Verlander - 97.17
Gerrit Cole - 92.73
Nolan Arenado - 88.23 Re-signed by 2018 team
Bryce Harper - 88.18 Acquired mid-season

Comp B:
Patrick Corbin - 87.86 Acquired mid-season
J.A. Happ - 87.55 Re-signed by 2018 team
Clayton Kershaw - 82.41
Adam Ottavino - 80.20 Acquired mid-season
Julio Teheran - 79.55 Acquired mid-season
Scooter Gennett - 79.09
Masahiro Tanaka - 78.71
Didi Gregorius - 78.58
Michael Brantley - 78.55
Anthony Rendon - 78.17
Andrew McCutchen - 76.54
Aaron Hicks - 75.92
Nick Markakis - 74.62
Marcell Ozuna - 74.41
David Robertson - 70.54
Craig Kimbrel* - 68.86

*Note: For pitchers with RP eligibility, Craig Kimbrel was ranked #17 but he was below Ross Stripling and Carlos Martinez, who had > 50% of their appearances as SP, so they were removed; therefore, Kimbrel was the #15 RP and eligible for compensation

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So based on this, the picks given out should be:

Pick 1.31 --> Athletics (for M.Scherzer)
Pick 1.32 --> Pirates (for J.Verlander)
Pick 1.33 --> Nationals (for G.Cole)

Pick 2.31 --> Twins (for C.Kershaw)
Pick 2.32 --> Astros (for S.Gennett)
Pick 2.33 --> White Sox (for M.Tanaka)
Pick 2.34 --> Diamondbacks (for D.Gregorius)
Pick 2.35 --> Mariners (for M.Brantley)
Pick 2.36 --> Diamondbacks (for A.Rendon)
Pick 2.37 --> Diamondbacks (for A.McCutchen)
Pick 2.38 --> Cubs (for A.Hicks)
Pick 2.39 --> Mariners (for N.Markakis)
Pick 2.40 --> Athletics (for M.Ozuna)
Pick 2.41 --> Orioles (for D.Robertson)
Pick 2.42 --> Orioles (for C.Kimbrel)

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I think this is right, again based on Fantrax Score. Let me know if anything is off.

[Yankees GM (Justin)]

I don't think Kimbrel should have a comp pick. You can't just arbitrarily remove guys in front of him. CMart and Stripling were SP, but also RP. It's possible to be both.

[Rays GM 北海道日(Will)]

I agree with Justin

Picks Updated

[Astros GM (Max)]

Feb 16, 2019 15:21:20 GMT -5 Yankees GM (Justin) said:

I don't think Kimbrel should have a comp pick. You can't just arbitrarily remove guys in front of him. CMart and Stripling were SP, but also RP. It's possible to be both.

It wasn’t quite arbitrary. Guys shouldn’t qualify as both. So, as we do with the scale, I went with wherever they had more appearances. Don’t quite think it’s fair for guys to be double counted

[Yankees GM (Justin)]

Why shouldn't guys qualify as both? If a batter qualifies at LF and RF are we suddenly not going to count them in the RF rankings if they played 60 games in LF and 40 in RF?

And for the record, they are RP. Just because they may have started more games, doesn't make them not a RP too. They're not being double counted either. That'd be like if Stripling appeared twice on the top 75 pitchers list.

[Astros GM (Max)]

Feb 16, 2019 17:45:57 GMT -5 Yankees GM (Justin) said:

Why shouldn't guys qualify as both? If a batter qualifies at LF and RF are we suddenly not going to count them in the RF rankings if they played 60 games in LF and 40 in RF?

And for the record, they are RP. Just because they may have started more games, doesn't make them not a RP too. They're not being double counted either. That'd be like if Stripling appeared twice on the top 75 pitchers list.

You’re comparing apples and oranges. We judge hitters for comp picks as a whole group.

And yes they are being double counted if they count as SP and RP... that’s what double counting is. If a guy appeared as a top 45 SP and a top 15 RP would he get two comp picks? Remember - a player rater/Fantrax score is based on overall performance (so Carlos Martinez’s score is combined for him as a SP and RP, which is why he rates out as a top 15 RP).

And how do we determine which year of eligibility to use? For example, Brad Peacock had SP elig last year but not for 2019 - so would he qualify as a SP for comp purposes or not (since he had the SP elig during the season in which he earned the pick).

White Sox GM (Michael) wya

[Yankees GM (Justin)]

Ok maybe the hitting analogy was off but I stand by the fact players can be both RP and SP. If they appear on both T45 and T15 leaderboards, they get one pick. That's pretty obvious. And of course, the SP/RP are going to grade higher than regular 'ol RP because of their innings totals. But I still see no reason to exclude them because they got more IP. That's a slippery slope towards saying anyone that has started a game is no longer a RP. Where's the line? Anywhere you set it is going to be arbitrary. What about Ryne Stanek? He was a SP mainly even though he was really getting RP innings. This opens up a whole can of worms when the simple solution is not arbitrarily cutting players out to move others up.

[Rays GM 北海道日(Will)]

Both of ya'll shut up

No comp pick for Kimbrel.


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[White Sox GM (Michael)]

When I determined these I think I went by more appearances. But it's really minutiae