2012 Offseason Suggestions

[Bryan (ex WAS)]

These are things I think we need to adjust in the league let me know of what you guys think. Just say what ideas you like and we can go talk about them more and maybe adjust a little bit of it.

1st Suggestion:

I think new owners should get an option of dropping a contract that was signed in Free Agency. There is a catch though. Twins signed Paul Konerko in 2010 and then he was traded he would not be able to get dropped cause he was traded. An example of which they can be dropped Cliff Lee signed by LA has yet to be traded by LA so he would have the option to drop Lee. So pretty much if they are still on the same team that signed them they can be dropped but If a new team took over a team and did not make the trade for that FA they also have the choice of dropping the player.

2nd Suggestion:

Houston Astros I think we should move them to the AL West and have teams have a bye week every now and then during the season.

3rd Suggestion:

I brought it up earlier in the season I think once we get the spreadsheets done. We should give awards for teams having players that get awards like gold glove,MVP,ROY,winning the league,division,etc..

4th Suggestion:

Trade Deadline we need a deadline we need a deadline not before the playoffs I think that is way to late. Not saying July 31st but maybe August 7th or somewhere around there. We need a deadline before the season is in its last week.

5th Suggestion:

Committees we need Trade committes big time some of these trades go through that should have never gone through I think we need a person from each division to be on a Trade Committee. Also need people to update stuff like Masterlist,Spreadsheets,and we need owners during free agency to make sure no one goes over the salary cap while bidding.

6th Suggestion:

When making a trade so it would be easy for the committee to know if a team goes over a cap or no post it like this its not hard to do at all.

Nationals Get:

Stephen Strasburg 1 m (3)

Mariners Get:

Aubrey Huff 8 m 2015
1st Round Draft Pick 2012 Nationals
1st Round Draft Pick 2013 Nationals

Natinals cap before - 33.7
Nationals cap after - 26.7

Mariners cap before - 25.5
Mariners cap after - 32.5

7th Suggestion:

Trade Clasuses and contracts being paid for I think we need to make a thread for this stuff maybe in the same place as the Masterlist. Also as soon as the playoffs end we need to do the 2013 Draft Order so we dont have to wait a month to do the draft.

8th Suggestion:

This is not really important but I think it would be cool to have someone do Power Rankings and weekly polls about random stuff.

If you have any other suggestions please reply to this and say them also reply to what you think of my suggestions thanks.

[Deleted]

To those suggestions

1 NO

2 Houston should only move if Espn does 30 team leagues

3 Awards?...I think we should have a trophy thread of some sort just listing teams that made the playoffs by year.

4 I agree I think we need a trade deadline before the playoffs. Early August- Mid August? Give a little more realistic feel to our little league imo.

5 Im not sure a trade committee would work (tried this before right?) and I believe the feeling from the LM is owners should get to run teams as they like. I agree with that IMO we don't have too many stinkers just a few stinky owners.

6 I think the more organized we get things such as cap space will be easier to get a hold of.

7. Our draft started not even a week after the real one....moving our draft faster would be a plus.

[White Sox GM (Michael)]

1. I actually like this idea. He could be re-bid upon.

2. Agree w/ Psych, only if there are 30-teamers.

3. What psych said. We can't give guys bonuses for MVPs, etc...because they aren't given out IRL

4. We could do that.

5. We have tried this before, and as psych said, to an extent, guys should run teams as they wish, as long as it doesn't upset league parity.

As for the master list, it's getting a facelift in the offseason.

6. That's fine.

7. Yeah, tough to speed up the draft. Another league does only 12 hr. clock. Guys can PM short lists to LMs anyway.

8. I'd love guys to get involved in rankings.

[Deleted]

1 too confuzing, no
2 move them as they move in real life, dont care for the bye
3 seems cool but..... no
4 sometime in august
5 dnt care
6 dnt care
7 smart
8 YES!

[Deleted]

1. I think you should just be allowed to drop anyone once you take over as an owner. I think the free agency policy might be a little mind-boggling to new owners trying to digest the league rules.
2. Agree w/Psych (only if 30 teamers available on ESPN).
3. I've always liked the idea of betting, but no awards IMO, because then the best teams will get better and the worst teams won't benefit. Plus, gold gloves don't pertain to fantasy at all since we don't score fielding.
4. I would be good with majority on this one. Makes it more realistic so sure. I think trading drives activity though.
5. We've tried this before and it has not worked. Additionally, if you don't have the time to fairly evaluate a trade, don't vote at all. If you aren't intelligent enough to fairly vote on a trade, you shouldn't be in this league.
6. I think this is only necessary for teams we know are fluttering around $100M in cap. It's tedious for owners who have plenty of room.
7. The thread would be good so we could all know what rules we are going off of, because it seems like in the last Tigers trade it was more of a bending of rules. We can discuss this amongst the LM's at some point.
8. Power rankings are always nice. Think this would make the league more interesting. Polls are fun too.

[Tigers GM (Alex)]

1. I'd be fine giving 1 free drop to new owners but on one condition. It needs to occur during the offseason, before FA begins, as to allow the player to then be a normal FA. Let's call it the amnesty clause, like in the NBA. If Cliff Lee were to be amnestied today and added to the available FAs, there would only be a handful of teams with money to bid on him, and he would likely go for way below market value.

2. Why would we want bye weeks? Unless we can have a 30 teamer on ESPN, Houston stays in the NL.

3. As Owen said, awards will make the gap between the best and worst teams even larger. We want an even and competitive league.

4. I'm against a deadline as trading leads to activity. If a team is out of the playoff race and isn't allowed to trade, why would they bother checking in on the site more than once every week or so, if even that.

5. TRP has been tried before and has not worked. Our current system is fine. Let owners run their teams how they want. If a trade is truly terrible it will get vetoed.

6. Don't care.

7. I agree that it's definitely a grey area, and shouldn't be allowed as of now. My trade with Reds is being modified to not include the 2014 clause.

8. I always like seeing my name at the top of lists.

[White Sox GM (Michael)]

Just a note...Owen alluded to betting in the league. This is something that I really, really want to avoid. I ranted about this last season as to why I don't like the idea; basically, it's unrealistic and can screw teams over.

[Braves GM (Wood)]

haha..thats why i do karma points for betting purposes

[gardyfan]

As far as the amnesty rule goes, I like the idea, but I think it should be allowed for the person doing the amnesty to re-bid. Yes I have Cliff Lee. But I did spend most of the season trying to figure out how to build around that contract I inherited. I can't say I would have declined the invite had i known the contract. I like that this has been a challenge for me.

That being said, I'm not sure I would amnesty the contract anyways.

[Rays GM (forbz)]

the one thing with the trade deadline is it kills the activity of the league i kinda like what we do because its trading year round so theres never a dull moment, it gives non playoff teams something to do during the playoffs

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Aug 5, 2012 10:32:43 GMT -5 Rays GM (forbz) said:

the one thing with the trade deadline is it kills the activity of the league i kinda like what we do because its trading year round so theres never a dull moment, it gives non playoff teams something to do during the playoffs

I second this notion. Well put, Forbz.

[Deleted]

I agree with Forbz, great idea on trading. The issue that needs addressed is waiver players, in my opinion. I am truly surprised that nothing was done about this sooner. My suggestion for this:

1) When a player is waived, there should be a 5 day window in which to be claimed. If claimed, new team accepts responsibility of accepting players current contract, and waiving team is free from financial responsibilty on waived player.

2) If multiple claims on player, team with worse record wins waiver bid, and team is then placed on bottom of waiver order.

3) If player goes unclaimed in the 5 day waiver period, he goes back into the FA pool and is free to be bid on. Waiving team is financially responsible for contract of waived player of 100% 1st year, and 50% of remaining years.

4) If waived player is a DP player, he is owed 100% of current year and 0% for remaining years.

5) If a prospect is waived and has no current contract, waiving team has no financially responsibilty for said player.

I believe something like this should be implemented immediately, not put into place after season and would create a lot less headaches going forward, and not be told you can't claim a waived person or you can't be bid on anyone till a certain date.

[Marlins GM (Kevin)]

^ I like this idea. I knew we let Rich in here for a reason

[White Sox GM (Michael)]

I think we need a guy to just to Waivers (a Waivers LM, essentially). I'm too busy with everything else in the league to keep track of it.

Rich, possibly you would be interested in this position.

[Deleted]

Good rules rich except the 2nd is confusing. The worse record team gets the waived player, but then they get sent to the bottom of the order after, and the 2nd worse record wons the next player even though the worst plachens claim? When can that team come back to the top of the order?

I also think it would be interesting for once a player is claimed, the team who wins the claim could have 24-48 hours to negotiate a trade with the team who waived them. After that time period, the team could either let the player go for free, retain them, or complete a trade (if they don't answer the other team gets the player for free). This is a lot like the MLB waiver system and could be good if you guys like it.

[Tigers GM (Alex)]

I like these ideas very much as well, but agree with Mike that we'd need someone solely dedicated to running waivers.

And I still think that it's just too late to get it set up this season. By the time we get it up and running would likely be at least another 2 weeks, which would leave us only a few weeks in season to use it. I'd rather just take our time and work out all of the rules with it in the offseason without rushing.

[Deleted]

What I meant by #2 was we would start with a waiver order, by current standings. With the team with the worse record 1st. If for some unthinkable reason OF Matt Kemp was waived, and 12 teams place a claim, the team with the worse record would get him, and then they would slide to last in the order. I think it would be fair this way, because if say, Justin Verlander were waived and the order remained the same, the same team would end up getting him, too. Just making it fair for everyone who would want to place a claim. They would eventually move back up to the top. They just have to be smart on who they claim. Sometimes they can be the only claimant, no matter where they are in the waiver order.

As for rule suggestion #4, I have leagues that in the offseason, and offseason only, you can waive a DP player and have no financially responsibility to him. But that is up for debate here.

I am just throwing suggestions out to help the league get better and hopefully keep the same level of activity, fairness, and competetiveness we have seen recently. I just want it to continue.

[White Sox GM (Michael)]

Yeah, like Alex said, let's wait until the offseason.

By the way, speaking of offseason, the Monday after the World Series, we are shutting everything down and fixing everything. Rosters will turn over to 2013. I will be re-formatting the Master List, one that shall be mantained 100%. And, we will go through the rules extremely thouroughly in an attempt to tweak them.

Myself, Alex, Psych, and (evil) Kevin will most likely put together a plan of action for this offseason in the near future. We'll need everyone's co-operation and devotion to the tasks at hand.

Thank you.