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Post by Tigers GM (Alex) on Oct 14, 2012 21:06:08 GMT -5
Alright listen up y'all:
This offseason we will be introducing a new feature, an amnesty clause. This clause will be much like the one the NBA currently uses. Here's how it will work:
-Every current owner will receive one (1) amnesty clause.
-Every new owner who joins the league will receive an amnesty clause to use.
-This amnesty clause can be used to release any player on your team, free of a cap penalty.
-The player will then go to waivers. If the player is claimed, the claiming team will be awarded the player at his full salary.
-If the player goes unclaimed, he will become a normal FA to be bid on.
-Amnesty clauses are not tradable.
-Once you've used your amnesty clause you will not receive another one, so be smart about it.
Amnesty clause use will be opened up once we finalize the new waiver process in the coming weeks, so look for another post about that.
-Alex and Mike
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Post by Rays GM (forbz) on Oct 14, 2012 21:14:13 GMT -5
i cant say i like this rule at all, bails out the bad owners, and owners who stayed away from bad contracts it makes it worse on them, i definitely think this should be voted on or something. I really dont like this.
i understand new owners didnt sign the bad contracts, but they signed on knowing what they are working with. especially considering that anyone could sign hamilton for 50mill this year the amnesty him at the end of the season and be completly bailed out.
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Post by Tigers GM (Alex) on Oct 14, 2012 21:17:49 GMT -5
Every team has the option to do that if they'd like to. It's not like it gives any teams an unfair advantage.
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Post by Rays GM (forbz) on Oct 14, 2012 21:21:26 GMT -5
it does though, i have no reason for using it it bails out teams, who made bad decisions and are over the cap for help this season, if i knew there was gonna be an amnesty i would of traded for a terrible contract, to be my DH and give a better lineup for playoffs, i just think its ridiculous no vote or notice was used.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 21:31:00 GMT -5
I agree with Forbz
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Post by Tigers GM (Alex) on Oct 14, 2012 21:32:34 GMT -5
You obviously have the option to trade for or sign a bad contract if you'd like to in the future. It's not like anybody else had this knowledge available last season that gave them an advantage. The clause will never expire and I guarantee you that at some point in the future you will have a bad contract that you'll want to use it on. I don't have any bad contracts right now that I'd want to use it on either, so I'll just save it for the future.
I'm sorry that you feel the way that you do about this, but not everything in this league is going to be put to a vote. Mike and I very often give everyone the ability to vote on rule changes. However that won't occur for every single thing. This isn't a complete democracy. If everything were voted on nothing would ever get done. This is the reason we switched from 6 LMs to just 2. Mike and I feel that this is for the good of the league and therefore we will go forward with it.
As for their being no notice, well this is your notice. The rule will not be put into effect for several more weeks, which gives you more then enough time to plan for it. I'm not quite sure what other kind of notice you would have liked. As I already told you, this wasn't going to be something that was going to be put to a vote.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 21:38:24 GMT -5
Much easier to get rid of a bad contract than a terrible owner that you are friends with I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 21:49:04 GMT -5
I agree with Forbz too...
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Post by Rays GM (forbz) on Oct 14, 2012 21:55:53 GMT -5
Much easier to get rid of a bad contract than a terrible owner that you are friends with I guess. didnt want to say it but this is exactly want i was thinking |
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Post by Marlins GM (Kevin) on Oct 14, 2012 23:41:29 GMT -5
I dont like the amnesty clause at all either.
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Post by Royals GM (BigRussi) on Oct 15, 2012 2:57:25 GMT -5
Im all for this, Amnesty Clause will be a useful tool in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 11:10:27 GMT -5
Im all for this, Amnesty Clause will be a useful tool in the future. For fiscally irresponsible teams. |
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Post by Rays GM (forbz) on Oct 15, 2012 11:18:59 GMT -5
The owners that are gonna for the clause are the ones that need it
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Post by Bryan (ex WAS) on Oct 15, 2012 11:23:37 GMT -5
Instead of letting teams able to drop 1 contract when ever just give them 2 weeks or so from today to choose if they dont want someone. I dont agree that you can use the amnesty anytime you want for 1 time. There needs to be a deadline on when you can use it. I mean I could sign Josh Hamilton for 5 years at a ridiculous price and then just drop him.
Making this rule would ruin free agency this year. I mean there are a couple of new owners who dont really know how to bid and some guys that have yet to even bid on FA and now they have money. Which could spell trouble. I'm not saying anything bad about these owners but its been done in the past and im sure it will happen again this offseason.
Also we have had the same group of owners pretty much for like 2 years now. So if you can't learn how to spend your money wisely you dont need to be in here. So here is my suggestion to the rule.
Any team can drop 1 player with no pennalty if they choose but they may only drop 1 player and they have 2 weeks to decide if they want to drop a player if they dont they cant ever use the amnesty clause again.
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Post by Marlins GM (Kevin) on Oct 15, 2012 11:41:44 GMT -5
I agree with Bryan. Maybe give a new owner a week or 2 to drop one person but not everyone.
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Post by Rays GM (forbz) on Oct 15, 2012 12:37:41 GMT -5
Instead of letting teams able to drop 1 contract when ever just give them 2 weeks or so from today to choose if they dont want someone. I dont agree that you can use the amnesty anytime you want for 1 time. There needs to be a deadline on when you can use it. I mean I could sign Josh Hamilton for 5 years at a ridiculous price and then just drop him. Making this rule would ruin free agency this year. I mean there are a couple of new owners who dont really know how to bid and some guys that have yet to even bid on FA and now they have money. Which could spell trouble. I'm not saying anything bad about these owners but its been done in the past and im sure it will happen again this offseason. Also we have had the same group of owners pretty much for like 2 years now. So if you can't learn how to spend your money wisely you dont need to be in here. So here is my suggestion to the rule. Any team can drop 1 player with no pennalty if they choose but they may only drop 1 player and they have 2 weeks to decide if they want to drop a player if they dont they cant ever use the amnesty clause again. like i said before im signing hamilton for big money 5 years then dropping after the season, i dont agree with this bryan either, take this away then there is no reason what so ever for me to use the clause |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 14:06:05 GMT -5
@physch, whos this bad owner? you? this is a public forum for everyone in the league, stop talking shit about people and if ur going to talk shit, be man enough to call the person out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 14:37:38 GMT -5
@physch, whos this bad owner? you? this is a public forum for everyone in the league, stop talking shit about people and if ur going to talk shit, be man enough to call the person out. @whatever your name is I am sorry once again I was looking out for the league not some teenager's adolescent feewings. Since this is a "public forum" I was voicing MY opinion on what this is really about......giving bad owners a pass. NOT owners named (insert your name here) ______ . "Be a man enough to call the person out" I was trying to avoid drama and what good what that do lol? Last time I had a problem which again was about the good of the league and I referred to that person by name he proceeded to throw a temper tantrum about how I was out to get him despite being guilty of what I accused him off. I forget who that person was do you remember?  OH BTW wasn't even talking about you but it's nice you have a conscience though. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 17:34:12 GMT -5
I do like the general point of the amnesty clause as it can help out some teams, but the one thing I have against it is the fact a team can store and save it to use whenever they like.
This can be used to "take advantage of the system" per se, and a team can go out and sign a guy for a ludicrous amount and years, then just cut his ass to the curb with not strings attached with this amnesty clause.
I agree with Bryan that there should be a deadline for the amnesty clauses so that an owner couldn't take advantage of it down the road.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 18:07:33 GMT -5
Well the problem with a deadline is for teams like me...I have absolutely nothing to even use it on if i wanted too so for me to have a deadline to use it is unfair when down the road not to take advantage of the system but i might have a purpose for it at some point...I think if its a 1 time thing then no there should be no deadline because then some owners just flatout can't use it while others benefit and gain an unfair advantage
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